tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post1029968018754459559..comments2024-01-08T14:21:37.465-08:00Comments on Infinite Art Tournament: Flag Friday VMichael5000http://www.blogger.com/profile/10148584819327475239noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-36926009965033117772010-04-11T09:46:26.690-07:002010-04-11T09:46:26.690-07:00@Morgan: I've been thinking about this, and I ...<b>@Morgan: I've been thinking about this, and I think we should eventually culminate it in a "March Madness" style flag tournament. Next March, perhaps.</b>Michael5000https://www.blogger.com/profile/10148584819327475239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-68368609030287562322010-03-30T11:44:08.397-07:002010-03-30T11:44:08.397-07:00Mr. Owl: Hmm, excellent points all. The non-rever...<b>Mr. Owl: Hmm, excellent points all. The non-reversibility point, I have to admit, tempers my crush on the Brazilian flag.<br /><br />I agree that a popular flag need not be an especially high-quality flag -- hey, look at MY country's -- but for a flag to be a popular symbol, especially a long ways from its home base, might be a <i>symptom</i> of its quality. (Do I want to have my cake and eat it too on this point? Perhaps.)<br /><br />Since Aviatrix proposed the kid-with-the-crayon test, I've let it drift into two seperate concepts:<br /><br />1) Simplicity: how EASY is the flag to draw. An important concept that we don't want to lose.<br /><br />2) Compellingness: how much FUN would it be to draw the flag? I snuck this one under the conceptual wire with Bhutan's dragon, as well as here with Brazil. (Brazil is the first flag in this series, mind you, that I've felt compelled to actually get out my colored pencils and have a go at myself. It was fun!)<br /><br />Thanks for your comments. Rigorous peer review will only make vexilogical criticism stronger!</b>Michael5000https://www.blogger.com/profile/10148584819327475239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-55523162219513644362010-03-28T18:55:01.704-07:002010-03-28T18:55:01.704-07:00On reveiwing your post, we seem to disagree on the...On reveiwing your post, we seem to disagree on the function of the crayon test...True, the average school child could produce a flag that is recognisable as the flag of Brazil quite easily, but the same is true of almost any country...but they couldn't get all the stars on there, and they couldn't do the writing unless they were using a mighty large peice of paper.UnwiseOwlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09466448988499591715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-36609982095863603302010-03-28T18:44:36.874-07:002010-03-28T18:44:36.874-07:00I'm not sure that the NZ flag's 'star-...I'm not sure that the NZ flag's 'star-map' of a whole five stars in an easily recognisable constellation can really be compared to the Brazillian flag's 25+ stars. People often complain of the difficulty of accurately portraying an NZ or Australian flag due to the star placement, how much harder would an accurate Brazillian flag be to replicate?<br />Furthermore, the popularity of a flag in it's own region of the world doesn't make it a better flag, and the reason the Brazilian flag is so popular in the US is not the quality of the flag, but the high levels of Brazilian population and the extreme levels of nationalism of Brazilian citizens and ex-pats, comparable to that of the US itself and to my own home country of Australia.<br />The Brazillian flag is distinctive, it definitely has that going for it, but it's also fiddly, non-reversible and definitely fails the crayon test, things your own criteria would acknowledge as making this a less powerful flag. I don't contend that this isn't one of the most instantly recognisable and well known flags internationally, but it's not a great example of flag design.UnwiseOwlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09466448988499591715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-79457121505576199572010-03-26T13:08:21.061-07:002010-03-26T13:08:21.061-07:00I also like how their motto is "Order and Sou...I also like how their motto is "Order and Soup." The color scheme even kinda matches the Progresso Soup cans - talk about product placement!DrSchnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13428753570121627382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-62299459976781530322010-03-26T11:25:13.146-07:002010-03-26T11:25:13.146-07:00At the end of all this, are you going to post the ...At the end of all this, are you going to post the best of all of the flags (top ten or something)? That would be cool.Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475862386179357634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10779294.post-63970852705886138482010-03-26T08:07:23.119-07:002010-03-26T08:07:23.119-07:00I also like the way the curve of the Brazilian mot...I also like the way the curve of the Brazilian motto transforms the circle into a celestial sphere. How many flags pull off a 3D move like that, without sacrificing graphic simplicity? Huh, Dr. Parsons?mrs.5000noreply@blogger.com